{"id":18882,"date":"2024-10-01T08:18:37","date_gmt":"2024-10-01T06:18:37","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.hackingchinese.com\/?p=18882"},"modified":"2024-10-01T14:37:49","modified_gmt":"2024-10-01T12:37:49","slug":"student-qa-october-2024-pronouncing-the-final-i-after-sh-the-initial-z-and-if-pinyin-is-a-good-transcription-system","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.hackingchinese.com\/student-qa-october-2024-pronouncing-the-final-i-after-sh-the-initial-z-and-if-pinyin-is-a-good-transcription-system\/","title":{"rendered":"Student Q&#038;A, October 2024: Pronouncing the final -i after sh-, the initial z- and if Pinyin is a good transcription system"},"content":{"rendered":"\r\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignright size-medium wp-image-18887\" src=\"https:\/\/www.hackingchinese.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/13-300x300.jpeg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.hackingchinese.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/13-300x300.jpeg 300w, https:\/\/www.hackingchinese.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/13-150x150.jpeg 150w, https:\/\/www.hackingchinese.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/13-768x768.jpeg 768w, https:\/\/www.hackingchinese.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/13.jpeg 1024w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/>This week\u2019s <a href=\"https:\/\/www.hackingchinese.com\/podcast\/\">podcast<\/a> episode is a reader and listener Q&amp;A, where I answer three questions about Mandarin pronunciation.<\/p>\r\n<p>This time, I&#8217;m answering questions about:<\/p>\r\n<ul>\r\n<li>Pronouncing the final -i after e.g. sh-<\/li>\r\n<li>Pronouncing the initial z-<\/li>\r\n<li>If Pinyin is a good transcription system for students<\/li>\r\n<\/ul>\r\n<p>I have also included a written summary below!<\/p>\r\n<p><em>Tune in to <a href=\"https:\/\/www.hackingchinese.com\/podcast\/\">the Hacking Chinese Podcast<\/a> to listen to the related episode (#217):<\/em><\/p>\r\n<p><em><iframe loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/podcasters.spotify.com\/pod\/show\/hackingchinese\/embed\/episodes\/217---Student-QA--October-2024-Pronouncing-the-final--i-after-sh---the-initial-z--and-if-Pinyin-is-a-good-transcription-system-e2p2b6i\" width=\"400px\" height=\"102px\" frameborder=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\"><\/iframe><br \/><em>Available on <a href=\"https:\/\/podcasts.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/hacking-chinese-podcast\/id1536284827\">Apple Podcasts<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/show\/5iCRv1jg3j3yJZGJlYVYaO\">Spotify<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/youtu.be\/H2Xfu1nXT54\">YouTube<\/a>\u00a0and many other platforms!<\/em><\/em><\/p>\r\n<h3>Summary of this episode<\/h3>\r\n<p><strong>Links to things mentioned in the introduction<\/strong><\/p>\r\n<ul>\r\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.hackingchinese.com\/courses\/mandarin-chinese-pronunciation-course\/\">Hacking Chinese Pronunciation: Speaking with Confidence<\/a><\/li>\r\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.hackingchinese.com\/chinese-pronunciation-challenge\/\">Chinese pronunciation challenge, October 2024<\/a><\/li>\r\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.hackingchinese.com\/courses\/the-fluent-listener-navigating-mandarin-like-a-fish-in-water\/\">The Fluent Listener: Navigating Mandarin Like a Fish in Water<\/a><\/li>\r\n<\/ul>\r\n<p><strong>Question 1: How is the Pinyin final spelt with an &#8220;i&#8221; pronounced after &#8220;sh&#8221;?<\/strong><\/p>\r\n<ul>\r\n<li>The final &#8220;i&#8221; after &#8220;sh&#8221;, &#8220;zh&#8221;, &#8220;ch&#8221;, and &#8220;r&#8221; is a voiced version of the &#8220;sh&#8221; sound<\/li>\r\n<li>To pronounce it, retract your tongue and ensure your vocal cords vibrate (voicing)<\/li>\r\n<li>Relax the tongue slightly for a more accurate sound<\/li>\r\n<li>This explanation also applies to &#8220;i&#8221; after &#8220;s&#8221;, &#8220;z&#8221;, and &#8220;c&#8221;, but with a different tongue position<\/li>\r\n<\/ul>\r\n<p>Read more about Pinyin traps and pitfalls here: <a href=\"https:\/\/www.hackingchinese.com\/a-guide-to-pinyin-traps-and-pitfalls\/\">A guide to Pinyin traps and pitfalls: Learning Mandarin pronunciation<\/a><\/p>\r\n<p><blockquote class=\"wp-embedded-content\" data-secret=\"6lZQ9tAtEd\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.hackingchinese.com\/a-guide-to-pinyin-traps-and-pitfalls\/\">A guide to Pinyin traps and pitfalls: Learning Mandarin pronunciation<\/a><\/blockquote><iframe loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-embedded-content\" sandbox=\"allow-scripts\" security=\"restricted\" style=\"position: absolute; visibility: hidden;\" title=\"&#8220;A guide to Pinyin traps and pitfalls: Learning Mandarin pronunciation&#8221; &#8212; Hacking Chinese\" src=\"https:\/\/www.hackingchinese.com\/a-guide-to-pinyin-traps-and-pitfalls\/embed\/#?secret=hjdYyINGQ8#?secret=6lZQ9tAtEd\" data-secret=\"6lZQ9tAtEd\" width=\"500\" height=\"282\" frameborder=\"0\" marginwidth=\"0\" marginheight=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\"><\/iframe><\/p>\r\n<p><strong>Question 2: How is the initial spelt with a &#8220;z&#8221; pronounced compared to &#8220;z&#8221; in English?<\/strong><\/p>\r\n<ul>\r\n<li>Pinyin &#8220;z&#8221; is not like English &#8220;z&#8221;; it is an <em>affricate<\/em> sound, pronounced like &#8220;ts&#8221;<\/li>\r\n<li>There is no voicing, unlike the English &#8220;z&#8221;<\/li>\r\n<li>Avoid adding aspiration (a puff of air), which could turn it into Pinyin &#8220;c&#8221;<\/li>\r\n<\/ul>\r\n<p>Check my pronunciation course for more about this (and everything else related to pronunciation): <a href=\"https:\/\/www.hackingchinese.com\/courses\/mandarin-chinese-pronunciation-course\/\">Hacking Chinese Pronunciation: Speaking with Confidence<\/a><\/p>\r\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.hackingchinese.com\/courses\/mandarin-chinese-pronunciation-course\/\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter wp-image-13751 size-full\" src=\"https:\/\/www.hackingchinese.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/12\/pronunciation-mockup-782.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"782\" height=\"547\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.hackingchinese.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/12\/pronunciation-mockup-782.png 782w, https:\/\/www.hackingchinese.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/12\/pronunciation-mockup-782-300x210.png 300w, https:\/\/www.hackingchinese.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/12\/pronunciation-mockup-782-768x537.png 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 782px) 100vw, 782px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\r\n<p><strong>Question 3: Is Pinyin a good transcription system for learning pronunciation?<\/strong><\/p>\r\n<ul>\r\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.hackingchinese.com\/whats-the-difference-chinese-pronunciation-and-pinyin-does-matter\/\">Spoken sounds and written symbols are two different things; don&#8217;t mix them up<\/a><\/li>\r\n<li>Pinyin is systematic and effective for learning Mandarin pronunciation<\/li>\r\n<li>Most pronunciation errors related to Pinyin occur because students don&#8217;t learn the (simple) spelling rules<\/li>\r\n<li>Zhuyin prevents guessing based on English but is less commonly used<\/li>\r\n<li>Learning the International Phonetic Alphabet (IPA) can provide additional insights into pronunciation<\/li>\r\n<\/ul>\r\n<p>Read more here: <a href=\"https:\/\/www.hackingchinese.com\/learning-to-pronounce-mandarin-with-pinyin-zhuyin-and-ipa-part-1\/\">Learning to pronounce Mandarin with Pinyin, Zhuyin and IPA: Part 1<\/a><\/p>\r\n<p><blockquote class=\"wp-embedded-content\" data-secret=\"v1dfcbB101\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.hackingchinese.com\/learning-to-pronounce-mandarin-with-pinyin-zhuyin-and-ipa-part-1\/\">Learning to pronounce Mandarin with Pinyin, Zhuyin and IPA: Part 1<\/a><\/blockquote><iframe loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-embedded-content\" sandbox=\"allow-scripts\" security=\"restricted\" style=\"position: absolute; 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