Comments on: 20 tips and tricks to improve your Chinese writing ability https://www.hackingchinese.com/20-tips-and-tricks-to-improve-your-chinese-writing-ability/ A better way of learning Mandarin Tue, 04 Jan 2022 12:29:56 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9.4 By: Olle Linge https://www.hackingchinese.com/20-tips-and-tricks-to-improve-your-chinese-writing-ability/#comment-73020 Thu, 18 Feb 2021 08:55:01 +0000 https://www.hackingchinese.com/?p=14306#comment-73020 In reply to Ben Parker.

I doubt there is direct research that can conclusively answer this question, but I see no problem with writing an outline in one’s native language. We’re talking about few words that aren’t going to influence sentence structure or word choice once you get down to actually writing the text. If it’s easier to arrive at a clear structure by doing so in your native language, then do that!

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By: Ben Parker https://www.hackingchinese.com/20-tips-and-tricks-to-improve-your-chinese-writing-ability/#comment-73013 Thu, 18 Feb 2021 01:22:25 +0000 https://www.hackingchinese.com/?p=14306#comment-73013 Olle, how do you feel about intermediate/advanced learners writing their outlines or drafts in their native language and then moving to Chinese? Is there research that suggests when this is/isn’t helpful, or when it might be time to move on from this habit, and how?

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By: Olle Linge https://www.hackingchinese.com/20-tips-and-tricks-to-improve-your-chinese-writing-ability/#comment-72975 Tue, 16 Feb 2021 22:24:48 +0000 https://www.hackingchinese.com/?p=14306#comment-72975 In reply to george.

Feels a bit weird to respond to your comment six years later, but I have now updated the article and included double translation as well! It’s something I often recommend students doing and I should of course have mentioned it in the old article as well. Thanks for reminding me about it, even if it took me many years to actually do something about it! 🙂

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By: 12 topics to kickstart your Vietnamese writing - More Vietnamese https://www.hackingchinese.com/20-tips-and-tricks-to-improve-your-chinese-writing-ability/#comment-72974 Fri, 03 Feb 2017 07:35:23 +0000 https://www.hackingchinese.com/?p=14306#comment-72974 […] to write about. If you pick the wrong topic for your interests or your level, it can frustrate you, kill your motivation and even cause you to give up and avoid […]

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By: george https://www.hackingchinese.com/20-tips-and-tricks-to-improve-your-chinese-writing-ability/#comment-72969 Wed, 24 Dec 2014 16:33:48 +0000 https://www.hackingchinese.com/?p=14306#comment-72969 In reply to Daniel.

Chinese, like English, often allows the grammatical identify to be defined by context. And in other cases, we add a suffix to mark a change in grammatical function.

In English, nouns, verbs, adjectives, and adverbs do use suffices to migrate a root word and in some cases to clarify role (which seems to originate from Latin).

A noun such as ‘work’ is also the verb ‘work’, whereas ‘working’ or ‘worked’ can be adjectives. And a verb such as ‘do’ can become a noun infinite ‘to do’ or noun gerund ‘doing’

All those suffix shifts are extremely difficult to the Chinese learner of English. Being able to not bother with them may actually be an eventual blessing.

There are words in Chinese that tend to be strictly one function — mostly conjunctions and prepositions.

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By: george https://www.hackingchinese.com/20-tips-and-tricks-to-improve-your-chinese-writing-ability/#comment-72968 Wed, 24 Dec 2014 11:39:13 +0000 https://www.hackingchinese.com/?p=14306#comment-72968 Regarding #4, I tend to do a lot of double translation to verify both meaning and usage. Relying solely on translation from Chinese to English without verification by going from English to Chinese can lead to technically correct translation that is still a bit odd.

In any event, the need to spend so much time with dictionaries can be a bit tedious and daunting, and a struggle at first. But it is well worth it.

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By: Sara K. https://www.hackingchinese.com/20-tips-and-tricks-to-improve-your-chinese-writing-ability/#comment-72967 Fri, 19 Dec 2014 10:32:18 +0000 https://www.hackingchinese.com/?p=14306#comment-72967 I heartily agree with all of these tips (even as I admit that I sometimes stray from them myself out of frustration or because I’m pressed for time).

I try to cultivate curiosity about connotations and Chinese vocabulary, and let myself get sucked into Wikipedia, so that I can get myself into good habits. I find Wikipedia an excellent source both for the types of words which are often not in dictionaries, examples of words being used in context, and more detailed explainations of a word than most dictionaries provide.

It’s also exciting on the rare occasion I find a Chinese word/phrase/chengyu which describes exactly what the original writer expresses in English, but more concisely and elegantly.

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By: Daniel https://www.hackingchinese.com/20-tips-and-tricks-to-improve-your-chinese-writing-ability/#comment-72966 Wed, 17 Dec 2014 21:54:03 +0000 https://www.hackingchinese.com/?p=14306#comment-72966 If you asked me what is one of the tedious and frustrating things about Chinese, I would say it’s how some words (but not all) can act as verbs, adjectives AND nouns, and how any given dictionary would fail to mention this or give examples of its different uses.

Take the word 轰动 for example.

My ABC dictionary says it’s an adjective (stative verb) but then goes on to define it as: “cause a sensation; make a stir”.

My PlC dictionary gives these two examples:
轰动全国 — cause a sensation throughout the country
全场轰动 — make a stir in the audience (or in the hall)
Hmm…I wonder why the position of 轰动 is switched in both of these very similar constructions?

CC dictionary says it means “to cause a sensation”.

Finally, my ADS dictionary, says it’s a Noun and means “sensation”.

Now, accepting for a moment that 轰动 can be all three (verb, adjective, and noun), why doesn’t each dictionary state this simple fact?

–Daniel

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By: Whizz Learning | Start reading and writing Chinese as quickly and painlessly as possible! https://www.hackingchinese.com/20-tips-and-tricks-to-improve-your-chinese-writing-ability/#comment-72973 Wed, 23 Oct 2013 14:27:52 +0000 https://www.hackingchinese.com/?p=14306#comment-72973 […] wrote about writing a bit here, you might find it interesting. In short, I think “using” friends and other services is […]

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By: Olle Linge https://www.hackingchinese.com/20-tips-and-tricks-to-improve-your-chinese-writing-ability/#comment-72972 Sun, 01 Jul 2012 11:20:22 +0000 https://www.hackingchinese.com/?p=14306#comment-72972 In reply to Sara K..

Sounds great! Seems like an inexhaustible source of topics. I was on a roll with more than one entry per day for a while, but then… I stopped. I’ve been doing other things, but writing sentences now and then should be possible.

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