Comments on: When perfectionism becomes an obstacle to progress https://www.hackingchinese.com/when-perfectionism-becomes-an-obstacle-to-progress/ A better way of learning Mandarin Thu, 15 May 2025 19:40:00 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9.4 By: Analysis paralysis and learning Chinese: When thinking too much holds you back | Hacking Chinese https://www.hackingchinese.com/when-perfectionism-becomes-an-obstacle-to-progress/#comment-132832 Thu, 15 May 2025 19:40:00 +0000 http://molndrake.nyvald.se/?p=1130#comment-132832 […] paralysis: Avoiding conversations due to fear of making mistakes. Striving for perfection is an obstacle to progress. You won’t produce perfect Mandarin, or even understandable Mandarin, without practising, so […]

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By: Limit your focus; don't try to improve everything at once | Hacking Chinese https://www.hackingchinese.com/when-perfectionism-becomes-an-obstacle-to-progress/#comment-107869 Sun, 12 Mar 2023 18:35:55 +0000 http://molndrake.nyvald.se/?p=1130#comment-107869 […] My suggestion is that you focus on the same area until you’ve made significant progress, then revaluate your situation. What constitutes “significant progress” is up to you, but from a motivational point of view, you should at least notice the progress before moving on. On the other hand, aiming for perfection is rarely smart either, as the return of investment on the last few percent is… […]

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By: Haven’t mastered current vocabulary, but I’m moving on – Introverted Mandarin https://www.hackingchinese.com/when-perfectionism-becomes-an-obstacle-to-progress/#comment-20335 Mon, 12 Jun 2017 09:56:11 +0000 http://molndrake.nyvald.se/?p=1130#comment-20335 […] Hacking Chinese has a great article about perfectionism. […]

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By: Rob https://www.hackingchinese.com/when-perfectionism-becomes-an-obstacle-to-progress/#comment-1038 Wed, 15 Oct 2014 14:33:36 +0000 http://molndrake.nyvald.se/?p=1130#comment-1038 This resonates with me in a large way and I have a personal epiphany story to share about it. One of my hobbies a few years ago was DDR and Taiwan’s proximity to Japan meant they have new machines earlier than America, making my study at 师大 extra enjoyable as I always had something to do in the night if none of my other friends suggested anything. I befriended a guy named Ethan and we went to eat (perfect fried rice place in Ximending, I wish I remember where exactly) and he asked how I usually go home. I started to say it and he interrupted: 你为什么不用中文?

Naturally, many people had replied to my Chinese attempts in English since 1) I had only 8 months of Chinese at the time so people who had studied English in school often had superior English communication skills and 2) They probably wanted a chance to speak English, and maybe felt it would be more friendly. Ethan raised a great point though. I’m there to learn, why be a tourist? (I read that article too, haha)

In truth, one of my teachers at my American university ran a sink or swim class, and I swam, but she had such a disappointed disposition every time anyone made a mistake. I think this was overdone, and by making mistakes in Taiwan and afterwards (For example, I told the mayor of Kunshan: 我学了两个半年的中文了 last year and the smile that broke out told me I had made a mistake) I learn so much more. I managed to skip two semesters of Chinese because of my 2 months of study in Taiwan as I studied and applied what I learned in real life, and still felt I spoke much better than previously same-level classmates who had done intensive study in a class in Beijing for that summer. I think comfort zone should be among the first things to eliminate in language learning.

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By: Jayne https://www.hackingchinese.com/when-perfectionism-becomes-an-obstacle-to-progress/#comment-1037 Fri, 12 Sep 2014 05:13:13 +0000 http://molndrake.nyvald.se/?p=1130#comment-1037 I have been stuck in the ‘my foundations have to be perfect’ stage for over a year! I’ve suddenly realised how behind I am – this article has given me a whole new perspective!!!

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By: chiara https://www.hackingchinese.com/when-perfectionism-becomes-an-obstacle-to-progress/#comment-1036 Tue, 04 Feb 2014 12:46:57 +0000 http://molndrake.nyvald.se/?p=1130#comment-1036 Great article. I’m exactly stuck in the phase “I don’t read cos I haven’t found the perfect book yet”, and this has opened my eyes!
I have a question: do you really believe that, being a non-native speaker, we can learn Mandarin Chinese to a 85-95% level?
I have learnt many other European languages, and was able to reach a very advanced level (by “advanced” I mean being able to read, listen, write and understand something more or less like a native speaker would). But I still have the feeling this will never happen with Mandarin Chinese.

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By: Role-playing to learn more Chinese and avoid frustration | Hacking Chinese - 揭密中文 https://www.hackingchinese.com/when-perfectionism-becomes-an-obstacle-to-progress/#comment-1035 Fri, 13 Dec 2013 03:09:06 +0000 http://molndrake.nyvald.se/?p=1130#comment-1035 […] Generally speaking, focusing on meaning is a good idea. That is to say, the goal with communicating is to convey meaning of some sort, rather than performing repetitions drills or being overly neurotic about form (perfectionism is usually not good for you). […]

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By: Olle Linge https://www.hackingchinese.com/when-perfectionism-becomes-an-obstacle-to-progress/#comment-1034 Thu, 21 Nov 2013 23:17:53 +0000 http://molndrake.nyvald.se/?p=1130#comment-1034 In reply to David.

I (personally) had two reasons to care about pronunciation: First, it’s the most skill-like part of learning a language and thus involves more habit-like processes than anything else. This means that it’s harder to change bad pronunciation later. Second, I think pronunciation is interesting. My research is in acquisition of second language phonology and pronunciation, which reflects the same interest. This interest isn’t limited to Chinese, though.

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By: David https://www.hackingchinese.com/when-perfectionism-becomes-an-obstacle-to-progress/#comment-1033 Thu, 21 Nov 2013 19:23:10 +0000 http://molndrake.nyvald.se/?p=1130#comment-1033 Whilst learning my second language, I settled for less than perfect in all areas with the one very clear exception of pronunciation. I gained more confidence by learning correct pronunciation at the start when there was, what seemed at the time, an almost insurmountable amount of work to do in other areas. I suppose I was doing what I knew I could do perfectly and then coping with the rest in a more pragmatic way.

I’m quite curious what your reasons may have been for striving to perfect your pronunciation from the very beginning.

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By: How to learn Chinese characters as a beginner | Hacking Chinese - 揭密中文 https://www.hackingchinese.com/when-perfectionism-becomes-an-obstacle-to-progress/#comment-1032 Thu, 21 Nov 2013 03:55:41 +0000 http://molndrake.nyvald.se/?p=1130#comment-1032 […] The above advice should get you pretty far. If you want more resources for looking up characters (or anything else related to Chinese), I suggest that you read my article about suggested dictionaries (most of them online and free). However, don’t obsess about details and don’t try to look everything up. You will enter into a maze with no exit except the one you came in through. Realise that perfectionism can be an obstacle to progress. […]

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