Comments on: Review: The Phonology of Standard Chinese https://www.hackingchinese.com/review-the-phonology-of-standard-chinese/ A better way of learning Mandarin Tue, 16 Aug 2016 09:35:57 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9.4 By: Olle Linge https://www.hackingchinese.com/review-the-phonology-of-standard-chinese/#comment-1119 Sun, 27 Jan 2013 10:28:01 +0000 http://www.hackingchinese.com/?p=1442#comment-1119 In reply to Ivan.

Great! Be sure to let me know when you’ve read the book, I’m curious about it, too.

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By: Ivan https://www.hackingchinese.com/review-the-phonology-of-standard-chinese/#comment-1118 Sun, 27 Jan 2013 09:27:53 +0000 http://www.hackingchinese.com/?p=1442#comment-1118 In reply to Olle Linge.

Dear Olle

Thanks for your reply.

I’ll get the Yen-Hwei Lin first, and perhaps write a review like yours, then get the San Duanmu.

I’m just starting Chinese — planning on taking the lowest level HSK and a GCSE (an entry-level British exam) — this summer, but my background is in linguistics and inappropriate questions (about phonology, syntax, …) keep occurring to me.

I’ll report back in a few months 🙂

Best wishes

Ivan

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By: Olle Linge https://www.hackingchinese.com/review-the-phonology-of-standard-chinese/#comment-1117 Fri, 25 Jan 2013 14:37:45 +0000 http://www.hackingchinese.com/?p=1442#comment-1117 In reply to Ivan.

Hi Ivan,

No, I haven’t read that book, so I can’t compare. In fact, the other books I’ve read about the subject have been in Chinese, although I have of course read chapters on phonology in other books. I can’t say if this book is better than the book you refer to, but I can say that this book is worth reading regardless of how good the other one is. Thanks for the recommendation, I’ll see if I can get hold of it.

Best,

Olle

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By: Ivan https://www.hackingchinese.com/review-the-phonology-of-standard-chinese/#comment-1116 Fri, 25 Jan 2013 14:13:08 +0000 http://www.hackingchinese.com/?p=1442#comment-1116 Dear Olle

This is a really excellent review. You really make it seem like an enjoyable book.

I wonder, have you had a chance to compare this book with “The Sounds of Chinese” by Yen-Hwei Lin (Cambridge University Press, 2007)?

I think I’m going to buy one or the other, perhaps both.

Searching for reviews of these books led me to this website! Happy!

With thanks and best wishes

Ivan

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By: A guide to Pinyin traps and pitfalls | Hacking Chinese - 揭密中文 https://www.hackingchinese.com/review-the-phonology-of-standard-chinese/#comment-1115 Tue, 09 Oct 2012 03:29:26 +0000 http://www.hackingchinese.com/?p=1442#comment-1115 […] of the phonetic symbols I use here are from San Duanmu’s The Phonology of Standard Chinese, a book I thoroughly recommend. I have included some samples here as well, thanks to Zoe for those! […]

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By: Olle Linge - Languages, literature and the pursuit of dreams · Chinese proficiency report 14 https://www.hackingchinese.com/review-the-phonology-of-standard-chinese/#comment-1114 Wed, 02 May 2012 10:39:16 +0000 http://www.hackingchinese.com/?p=1442#comment-1114 […] Read, understand and take notes from The Phonology of Standard Chinese: Finished […]

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By: vermillon https://www.hackingchinese.com/review-the-phonology-of-standard-chinese/#comment-1113 Thu, 19 Apr 2012 14:49:02 +0000 http://www.hackingchinese.com/?p=1442#comment-1113 In reply to Olle Linge.

I think it’s clearer. A sentence like “This book has taught me very much, so listing it would be a bit time-consuming.” is almost enough to buy it.
I’ve noticed I understood Korean grammar much better after reading an “essential grammar”, so this may make my understanding of Mandarin better with this book.

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By: Olle Linge https://www.hackingchinese.com/review-the-phonology-of-standard-chinese/#comment-1112 Sat, 14 Apr 2012 11:38:49 +0000 http://www.hackingchinese.com/?p=1442#comment-1112 In reply to vermillon.

@Vermillion: It’s a fairly complete and connected explanations of the topics listen in the article. When I say “connected”, I mean that the arguments aren’t disparate, but rather fit together into some kind of larger whole. This book has taught me very much, so listing it would be a bit time-consuming. Generally speaking, though, it’s theoretical understanding of all sounds, tones, word/compound/phrase distinctions, stress and so on. Basically, he argues that stress is the key to almost everything and uses this to propose a solution to T3S, word/compound/phrase distinctions and some other things. I’m not sure this answer helps you, but you’ll have to ask a more specific question if you want a better answer. 🙂

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By: Sara K. https://www.hackingchinese.com/review-the-phonology-of-standard-chinese/#comment-1111 Thu, 12 Apr 2012 13:46:30 +0000 http://www.hackingchinese.com/?p=1442#comment-1111 Theory has certainly helped me improve my English pronunciation, and English is my native language. I would say that I speak English much better than the native English speaker – though I generally pronounce things in a less crisp manner in casual conversation than in formal situations (for example, except in formal situations, I tend to say ‘flaer’ and ‘jror’ instead of ‘flower’ and ‘drawer’). I would also say that the work I’ve done to improve my English pronunciation also made it easier to pick up Chinese pronunciation – I already came into Chinese study with a higher-than-average awareness of phonetic issues.

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By: vermillon https://www.hackingchinese.com/review-the-phonology-of-standard-chinese/#comment-1110 Thu, 12 Apr 2012 09:33:26 +0000 http://www.hackingchinese.com/?p=1442#comment-1110 Thanks Harry for that comment. Indeed, anyone belonging to a closely related language family like the Romance knows that the “dialect” thing is bullshit. It’s indeed a shame that even linguists would follow this line.

@Olle: I’m sorry, but I’m not sure I get why this book is interesting, from your review. Surely not for the beginner, but then, what does the more advanced learner gets from it? From the table of content I can only see “Stress”, “Rhythm in Poetry” and “Connected Speech” which seem interesting (just from the table of contents). Could you say more about why you think it’s an interesting read, what it brought you etc. If my question makes sense at all…

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