Comments on: The Cthulhu bubble and studying Chinese https://www.hackingchinese.com/the-cthulhu-bubble-and-studying-chinese/ A better way of learning Mandarin Wed, 10 Jan 2024 07:12:09 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9.4 By: The building blocks of Chinese: Making sense of compound words | Hacking Chinese https://www.hackingchinese.com/the-cthulhu-bubble-and-studying-chinese/#comment-116009 Wed, 10 Jan 2024 07:12:09 +0000 http://www.hackingchinese.com/?p=3386#comment-116009 […] The Cthulhu bubble and studying Chinese […]

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By: How to learn Chinese characters: My best advice | Hacking Chinese https://www.hackingchinese.com/the-cthulhu-bubble-and-studying-chinese/#comment-112984 Mon, 23 Oct 2023 12:21:46 +0000 http://www.hackingchinese.com/?p=3386#comment-112984 […] The Cthulhu bubble and studying Chinese – In your studies, you will encounter things that are very complex, don’t make a lot of sense or sometimes both. I strongly advise that you stay away from these things, especially as a beginner. You don’t have to sort out complex differences between how certain characters are used or understand the full process of how a given character came to be and evolved throughout history. This will contribute very little to your proficiency for the amount of time you invest. Don’t poke the monsters from beyond the bubble! […]

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By: Fearchar https://www.hackingchinese.com/the-cthulhu-bubble-and-studying-chinese/#comment-4839 Sun, 28 Feb 2016 09:36:52 +0000 http://www.hackingchinese.com/?p=3386#comment-4839 Inflammable is not a negative: it means capable of bursting into flames. “Flammable” is the product of folk etymology.

That said, the double negative that means the same as a single negative is well known in many English dialects, e. g. “I didn’t say nothing.”

The more widespread the language, the greater the likelihood of logical inconsistencies, because languages are not fixed rules but sets of malleable conventions.

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By: John https://www.hackingchinese.com/the-cthulhu-bubble-and-studying-chinese/#comment-2134 Sat, 01 Mar 2014 05:48:34 +0000 http://www.hackingchinese.com/?p=3386#comment-2134 In reply to Alan.

The flammable=inflammable example is the one that immediately popped into my mind too, analogous to 好不容易=好容易.

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By: A language learner’s guide to wuxia novels | Hacking Chinese - 揭密中文 https://www.hackingchinese.com/the-cthulhu-bubble-and-studying-chinese/#comment-2133 Thu, 16 Jan 2014 08:16:21 +0000 http://www.hackingchinese.com/?p=3386#comment-2133 […] said, Gu Long novels are written for educated native speakers, so encounters with Cthuthlu can happen, especially in his earlier works which tend to have more complex language. However, I think novels […]

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By: Sara K. https://www.hackingchinese.com/the-cthulhu-bubble-and-studying-chinese/#comment-2132 Wed, 06 Mar 2013 03:19:23 +0000 http://www.hackingchinese.com/?p=3386#comment-2132 I forgot to mention it when you first posted this, but it seems that what you describe as an encounter with Cthulhu is like getting stuck in the tip of a cow’s horn (I’m referring to 鑽牛角尖).

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By: Olle Linge https://www.hackingchinese.com/the-cthulhu-bubble-and-studying-chinese/#comment-2131 Thu, 28 Feb 2013 02:24:29 +0000 http://www.hackingchinese.com/?p=3386#comment-2131 In reply to Furio.

Indeed! I’m just trying to look at the same core concepts from different angles with the hope that different metaphors work for different people. I also think different approaches can highlight different problems. Perhaps I should write something directly about pareto later.

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By: Furio https://www.hackingchinese.com/the-cthulhu-bubble-and-studying-chinese/#comment-2130 Sun, 24 Feb 2013 05:22:08 +0000 http://www.hackingchinese.com/?p=3386#comment-2130 Yup, I would say this is another way to state Pareto Principle, also known as the 80/20 rule.

Pareto said that, for many events, the 20% of the cause (or actions) are responsible for the 80% of the effects.

So if you are a business man, roughly the 80% of your earnings will come from the 20% of your customers.

Hence you are better off keeping your attention on them instead of getting crazy trying to make happy people that aren’t adding any value to your life.

The sad reality is that we often spend the 80% of our time doing silly things that only account for the 20% of our results. Some examples?

Compulsive email checking, Facebook updating, news checking, slightly modifying the CSS of our website (LoL). The list is endless.

It applies quite will to languages study. If you can identify the 20% of a language that allows you to understand the 80% of what’s going on, you will avoid boredom and learn faster.

In Chinese this may be: learn the most common characters in a context that matter to you, study the basic grammar structures and so on.

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By: Olle Linge https://www.hackingchinese.com/the-cthulhu-bubble-and-studying-chinese/#comment-2129 Wed, 20 Feb 2013 14:37:29 +0000 http://www.hackingchinese.com/?p=3386#comment-2129 In reply to Chris.

I’m not sure if this is related to the actual article in any way or if it’s just general commentary on how people in general learn Chinese. Personally, I always stress that you should find ways of studying that you enjoy, but I see no reason why you can’t do what you suggest and use Anki at the same time. I’m a little bit confused about who or what your comment is directed towards.

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By: Chris https://www.hackingchinese.com/the-cthulhu-bubble-and-studying-chinese/#comment-2128 Wed, 20 Feb 2013 10:09:31 +0000 http://www.hackingchinese.com/?p=3386#comment-2128 At the end of the day, it’s language, not math. Sure it doesn’t make sense a lot of the time. Don’t freak out. Sometimes I think the problem lies with the mindset of the sort of people who choose to learn Asian languages, use Anki and all that. Let’s face it, a lot of the time it’s geeks. I consider myself at least 50% geek, so don’t all get offended. I’m saying this because I too used to try to learn everything and would have a panic attack when something made no sense whatsoever. Anyways, these days my advice is always the same. If language study is getting you down, then think of another way to skin the cat. Play Warcraft in Chinese, put on a decent Chinese film (yes they do exist), if your in “Greater China” go grab a beer and talk to the bar staff in your shitty broken Chinese, go and haggle over the price of teaeggs in 7-11. Why are you even learning Chinese? To communicate and enrich your life no? So go and do some enriching, and quit staring at the Anki leech count/having existential crisis.

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