Comments on: The get-back-up-to-speed summer challenge https://www.hackingchinese.com/the-get-back-up-to-speed-summer-challenge/ A better way of learning Mandarin Wed, 28 Aug 2013 07:16:41 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9.4 By: Olle Linge https://www.hackingchinese.com/the-get-back-up-to-speed-summer-challenge/#comment-2437 Wed, 28 Aug 2013 07:16:41 +0000 http://www.hackingchinese.com/?p=3929#comment-2437 In reply to Tyson.

Great! I actually didn’t finish my goal this time, but that was mostly because of the fact that I couldn’t use my writing tablet for the entire week. I simply won’t kill off a few hundred characters in Skritter with a mouse! I have Anki down to zero, though, so that’s according to plan at least.

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By: Tyson https://www.hackingchinese.com/the-get-back-up-to-speed-summer-challenge/#comment-2436 Tue, 27 Aug 2013 04:00:55 +0000 http://www.hackingchinese.com/?p=3929#comment-2436 In reply to Tyson.

I am posting to say I am finished, already at 1300 cards. Slowed down a bit in the last week but still happy.

This was quite a good way to drive progress so think I will set a monthly goal from now on.

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By: Olle Linge https://www.hackingchinese.com/the-get-back-up-to-speed-summer-challenge/#comment-2435 Mon, 12 Aug 2013 21:02:16 +0000 http://www.hackingchinese.com/?p=3929#comment-2435 I just post to write that I’m still on schedule! My Anki queue is around 900 and my Skritter queue is down to 350 something. It will take time to kill leeches, but I’ll deal with that later.

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By: Tyson https://www.hackingchinese.com/the-get-back-up-to-speed-summer-challenge/#comment-2434 Thu, 08 Aug 2013 01:18:41 +0000 http://www.hackingchinese.com/?p=3929#comment-2434 In reply to Olle Linge.

Got to 900 already, few days to go. Setting Anki’s default add rate to 30 works pretty well for me – sometimes I get them all done and it moves along rapidly, otherwise i tend to get about as many new ones as I have time for.

Having a good impact on my vocabulary already, very noticeable in conversation and reading that I have more words at my disposal. Have of course had Chinese people tell me my Chinese was good in a non-specific way but they never said I used rich and colorful words. Obviously they are overstating the case though – I still working on a lot of HSK 4 vocab.

I got someone to create flashcards for me which has freed up a lot of time for studying the conversations instead.

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By: Tyson https://www.hackingchinese.com/the-get-back-up-to-speed-summer-challenge/#comment-2433 Tue, 30 Jul 2013 05:33:12 +0000 http://www.hackingchinese.com/?p=3929#comment-2433 In reply to Thomas.

At least some of the time I want to review sentences that I’ve selected myself.

I find learning stuff that is slightly below my level is fine with “generic” sentences, this is kind of filling the gap of stuff that’s easy to understand and I kind of know, but I haven’t got around to memorizing properly yet (or it’s useful to see more examples).

With content that is more advanced tends to be more important to be picky – I don’t want to drown in it. I like to choose dialogs/media that I’ve already studied, and add them to Anki as soon as possible.

I like dialogs because it’s a connected topic so you learn 4-5 words which can be used together (e.g. contract, expire, renew, salary, number) which opens a whole topic up for exploration and (importantly) use.

Olle wrote some good ideas on this:
http://www.hackingchinese.com/?p=2958

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By: Thomas https://www.hackingchinese.com/the-get-back-up-to-speed-summer-challenge/#comment-2432 Mon, 29 Jul 2013 11:02:53 +0000 http://www.hackingchinese.com/?p=3929#comment-2432 In reply to Olle Linge.

Hey Tyson, we got rid of our MCD feature during the private beta, and are working on reintegrating it in another -improved- way in the coming weeks.

BTW, do you want to review YOUR sentences or any of your level is fine?

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By: Olle Linge https://www.hackingchinese.com/the-get-back-up-to-speed-summer-challenge/#comment-2431 Mon, 29 Jul 2013 07:15:57 +0000 http://www.hackingchinese.com/?p=3929#comment-2431 We have now reached the first milestone! I know Tyson is doing great, how about the rest of you? I’m doing okay, but my progress was very uneven. I basically did all the work just after the challenge started and just before the milestone. I still got it done, so I’m not complaining, but it could have been a smoother process.

Milestone #1, July 28:
Anki queue down to 2500: Check! Currently at 2342.
Skritter queue down to 600: Check! Currently at 600.

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By: Tyson https://www.hackingchinese.com/the-get-back-up-to-speed-summer-challenge/#comment-2430 Sun, 28 Jul 2013 14:41:03 +0000 http://www.hackingchinese.com/?p=3929#comment-2430 In reply to Thomas.

Thanks Thomas – My flashcards are sentences (or longer). I use MCD format (search for AJATT and MCD and real all about it). They look like this:
[…]本上等15分钟就可以了。
Waiting for 15 minutes is usually enough.

My job is to supply the missing character – which is 基. Actually this sentence can also be used for the 本,上,等 etc.. whatever you don’t know. Anki lets you just mark them as clozes, and it will make a card for each one. I also include full sentence audio and pinyin and definitions of key words on the back

I use multiple sources:
1. ChinesePod podcasts (native speaker audio is great). Good for conversations.
2. 3800 useful Chinese sentences from mandarinchineseschool.com. They also have audio. Good for basic daily phrases.
3. About.com and Nciku – good for grabbing examples of words I need, but need to add audio most of the time.
4. Email and stuff I get in my own life – if it’s bilingual I get someone to record the Chinese audio, break it into sentences and use it.
There’s a lot of recording, cut and paste, chopping up mp3 files and so on that I am not super keen to do, which is why I’m happy to pay for the work to get done.

I tried nuli just now. I like the learning interface a lot it’s a good way to go through lists of vocab. I really like the live feed it’s great to read actual posts. My goals for reviewing are different from what Nuli does right now – but I think it’s a very nice interface for reading.

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By: Olle Linge https://www.hackingchinese.com/the-get-back-up-to-speed-summer-challenge/#comment-2429 Wed, 24 Jul 2013 19:24:52 +0000 http://www.hackingchinese.com/?p=3929#comment-2429 In reply to Tyson.

Great! This reminds me that I probably should add some oil. I did pretty well the first week, but haven’t done much this week. Still a few days left, so i should be fine. Keep us posted!

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By: Thomas https://www.hackingchinese.com/the-get-back-up-to-speed-summer-challenge/#comment-2428 Wed, 24 Jul 2013 15:28:06 +0000 http://www.hackingchinese.com/?p=3929#comment-2428 In reply to Tyson.

Amazing Tyson!

May I ask what source you want to use to create flashcards? Do you want words, sentences, … ?

You may not need to hire anyone and do it directly through http://nulinu.li and the “Review” feature.

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