Comments on: Phonetic components, part 2: Hacking Chinese characters https://www.hackingchinese.com/phonetic-components-part-2-hacking-chinese-characters/ A better way of learning Mandarin Mon, 02 Dec 2024 07:42:54 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9.4 By: Student Q&A, December 2024: Learning similar Chinese characters, polyphonic characters, and flashcards vs. reading for building vocabulary | Hacking Chinese https://www.hackingchinese.com/phonetic-components-part-2-hacking-chinese-characters/#comment-125950 Mon, 02 Dec 2024 07:42:54 +0000 http://www.hackingchinese.com/?p=4044#comment-125950 […] Phonetic components, part 2: Hacking Chinese characters […]

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]]> By: The building blocks of Chinese: Memorising characters faster | Hacking Chinese https://www.hackingchinese.com/phonetic-components-part-2-hacking-chinese-characters/#comment-116007 Wed, 10 Jan 2024 07:11:24 +0000 http://www.hackingchinese.com/?p=4044#comment-116007 […] The answer is that you shouldn’t think about them as “with dot” or “without dot”. They are sound components in all these characters, and indeed, all the ones without a dot (艮) have similar pronunciation: h- or g- plus -en or -in. Those with a dot (良) are based on the character 良 (liáng) and almost always end in -iang or -ang. Just by knowing this ,you can easily remember how to write these characters! I wrote about this in more detail here: […]

]]> By: How to learn Chinese characters: My best advice | Hacking Chinese https://www.hackingchinese.com/phonetic-components-part-2-hacking-chinese-characters/#comment-105742 Sat, 31 Dec 2022 14:22:27 +0000 http://www.hackingchinese.com/?p=4044#comment-105742 […] Learn about and understand how phonetic components can help you understand characters – A large majority of Chinese characters are combinations of one sound component and one meaning component (just like 们/們 in my example above). These are usually called phonetic-semantic compounds and without learning about them, you haven’t even begun to understand Chinese characters. In the follow-up to this article, I talk about how to make maximum use of this when learning characters. […]

]]> By: Jai12 https://www.hackingchinese.com/phonetic-components-part-2-hacking-chinese-characters/#comment-96826 Mon, 20 Jun 2022 04:19:50 +0000 http://www.hackingchinese.com/?p=4044#comment-96826 In reply to John Renfroe.

Hi John, thank you for the reply. I’ll make sure to post my questions in the discussion. Appreciate the Masterclass as well it was very informative.

Also thank you Olle for reaching out on my behalf!

]]> By: John Renfroe https://www.hackingchinese.com/phonetic-components-part-2-hacking-chinese-characters/#comment-94802 Tue, 03 May 2022 07:32:36 +0000 http://www.hackingchinese.com/?p=4044#comment-94802 In reply to Jai12.

We’ve recently had some customer emails get caught in the spam blocker, but that should be resolved now. Sorry about that!

However, generally for Masterclass-related questions, it’s best to post to the Discussions section of the course—we keep a close eye out there and usually answer pretty quickly.

In the case of 京 and 亮, it isn’t that j- and l- are related sounds, but that 京 was pronounced *kraŋ in Old Chinese. Some characters with 京 as a sound component retained the *k- (which later became j- in Mandarin) and dropped the *-r-, while others retained the *-r- (which became an l- in Mandarin) and dropped the *k-.

A similar situation can be seen with 各 (OC *klaːɡ) and characters like 洛路 etc.

Hope that clears it up!

]]> By: Olle Linge https://www.hackingchinese.com/phonetic-components-part-2-hacking-chinese-characters/#comment-94750 Mon, 02 May 2022 10:58:01 +0000 http://www.hackingchinese.com/?p=4044#comment-94750 In reply to Jai12.

I know both Ash and John, so I’ll send an email to them. They normally don’t operate like that and there might be some problem they also would like to know about. I’ll let you know if I hear anything, but try the Facebook group in the meantime!

]]> By: Jai12 https://www.hackingchinese.com/phonetic-components-part-2-hacking-chinese-characters/#comment-94735 Mon, 02 May 2022 04:22:26 +0000 http://www.hackingchinese.com/?p=4044#comment-94735 In reply to Olle Linge.

Hey Olle,

Thanks for the reply. Okay! I’ll try do that. Yeah, I sent a couple emails to them but it’s been like 3 weeks already so I think it’s safe to assume I won’t be getting any answers from them. Thank you for the help

]]> By: Olle Linge https://www.hackingchinese.com/phonetic-components-part-2-hacking-chinese-characters/#comment-94527 Wed, 27 Apr 2022 08:22:42 +0000 http://www.hackingchinese.com/?p=4044#comment-94527 In reply to Jai12.

I don’t know enoguh about historical phonology to answer your questions, but we’re talking about the evolution of an organic, spoken language, so sometimes things change in what look like weird ways in retrospect. Maybe you could try posting your question in their Facebook group? I’m a bit surprised they didn’t get back to you as I think they are generally quite good at answering questions.

]]> By: Jai12 https://www.hackingchinese.com/phonetic-components-part-2-hacking-chinese-characters/#comment-94520 Wed, 27 Apr 2022 02:06:17 +0000 http://www.hackingchinese.com/?p=4044#comment-94520 In reply to Jai12.

I have a small typo, I meant to say that:

the class states j,q,x are related in sound and they can relate to g,k,h. There’s no “L” for liang anywhere to be found so I’m not sure how they determined that “jing” relates to “liang” as a sound component

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