Comments on: Asking the experts: How to bridge the gap to real Chinese https://www.hackingchinese.com/asking-the-experts-how-to-bridge-the-gap-to-real-chinese/ A better way of learning Mandarin Tue, 11 Jul 2023 19:53:26 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9.4 By: The phantasm of superior studying and what to do about it - marcelalovesafrica https://www.hackingchinese.com/asking-the-experts-how-to-bridge-the-gap-to-real-chinese/#comment-110133 Tue, 11 Jul 2023 19:53:26 +0000 http://www.hackingchinese.com/?p=4222#comment-110133 […] For recommendation about bridging the hole to real-world Chinese language, test this text the place I requested greater than twenty academics and college students with cumulative centuries of expertise: Asking the consultants: The right way to bridge the hole to actual Chinese language. […]

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By: The illusion of advanced learning and what to do about it | Hacking Chinese https://www.hackingchinese.com/asking-the-experts-how-to-bridge-the-gap-to-real-chinese/#comment-109675 Tue, 20 Jun 2023 12:46:47 +0000 http://www.hackingchinese.com/?p=4222#comment-109675 […] For advice about bridging the gap to real-world Chinese, check this article where I asked more than twenty teachers and students with cumulative centuries of experience: Asking the experts: How to bridge the gap to real Chinese. […]

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By: Chinese immersion with Carl Gene Fordham | Hacking Chinese - 揭密中文 https://www.hackingchinese.com/asking-the-experts-how-to-bridge-the-gap-to-real-chinese/#comment-2677 Wed, 18 Dec 2013 14:30:53 +0000 http://www.hackingchinese.com/?p=4222#comment-2677 […] Who wouldn’t be interested in someone who writes under a tagline like that? I have been an avid reader Carl Gene Fordham’ blog and have been following his Twitter feed for quite some time now. Therefore, Carl was also one of the people I turned to with my question about bridging the gap to real Chinese (see Asking the Experts: How to bridge the gap to real Chinese). […]

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By: Andreas https://www.hackingchinese.com/asking-the-experts-how-to-bridge-the-gap-to-real-chinese/#comment-2676 Wed, 13 Nov 2013 07:50:56 +0000 http://www.hackingchinese.com/?p=4222#comment-2676 I find that immersion is as much as psychological step as it is a way of studying. To immerse yourself into a Chinese language environment, you necessarily need to immerse yourself into the culture that is associated with it. To accept Chinese language as a part of yourself, as your way of communication, your way or thinking, your way of dreaming, as opposed to a foreign object that you try to understand from outside, but isn’t really yours.

It is difficult to do that, but it is quite easy to predict with our students who will succeed in learning Mandarin up to fluency and who will not by just getting known to them socially. It is not those who study the hardest, but those who are willing to accept a culture as different as China’s (almost another kind of reality) as their own – for at least a certain time period.
Hard to do and not for everyone, but there is no faster and better way to learn Chinese.
That’s the psychological side. The studying side is quite straight forward: do not speak English, do not read English, do not write English. Easy for those few lucky ones who actually dont speak English (and therefore are probably not reading this blog) but much harder for everyone else. To choose the difficult road whenever presented with the choice. It takes a lot of willpower. The only real way around this is by simply placing yourself into an environment where nobody else speaks English. Then the studying aspect of immersion becomes very simple. If you manage to sort out the psychological part chances are you will become fluent in Mandarin quite quickly.

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By: george https://www.hackingchinese.com/asking-the-experts-how-to-bridge-the-gap-to-real-chinese/#comment-2675 Sun, 10 Nov 2013 19:06:54 +0000 http://www.hackingchinese.com/?p=4222#comment-2675 It is not just Chinese, all 2nd language studies present a rather limited use set of phrases, lexicon, and tools for a foreign language.

If you can’t immerse yourself in a Chinese culture, you really have to find another way to bring today’s Chinese culture to you (You don’t need to know all the historic stuff, just the gossip topic of the day).

I suspect reading and writing Chinese can really divert a lot of time from learning to communicate face-to-face in Chinese. So it is important to stick with the spoken conversational language. Becoming a bookworm won’t cut it.

I mentioned translating western movie titles as an interesting task with the newspaper, but it offers tons of opportunities for you to ask your Chinese friends why the difference and to laugh about the contrast… all while practising your Chinese.

In sum, the best learners of modern Chinese are talkers and listeners, not readers and writers. DON’T be shy, use what you have.

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By: Matt https://www.hackingchinese.com/asking-the-experts-how-to-bridge-the-gap-to-real-chinese/#comment-2674 Fri, 08 Nov 2013 05:45:52 +0000 http://www.hackingchinese.com/?p=4222#comment-2674 Wow, incredible post–one of the best in the site’s history. So much knowledge and ideas to sift through here. Thank you for this, Olle!

I’ve taken about a year off from Chinese to work on French, but this makes me want to get back in the game.

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By: Chris W. Hubbard https://www.hackingchinese.com/asking-the-experts-how-to-bridge-the-gap-to-real-chinese/#comment-2673 Fri, 08 Nov 2013 05:37:09 +0000 http://www.hackingchinese.com/?p=4222#comment-2673 Good post, but maybe a bit much. I was in scroll free-fall after Benny….

A few personal comments:

1 – What beginners have learned IS of limited use, because…. what has been learned is limited.

2 – Textbook prepare you for the real world as much as cookbooks prepare you for real cooking. YOU still have to make the cookies.

I agree mostly with Adam and Benny. No app, website or teacher is going to magically make you fluent, but nobody likes that answer. Time + effort.

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By: How to bridge the gap to real Chinese | Sinosplice https://www.hackingchinese.com/asking-the-experts-how-to-bridge-the-gap-to-real-chinese/#comment-2672 Fri, 08 Nov 2013 01:33:03 +0000 http://www.hackingchinese.com/?p=4222#comment-2672 […] at Hacking Chinese just put up a new post called Asking the experts: How to bridge the gap to real Chinese. In it, he asks quite a few language learners/experts the […]

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By: nommoc https://www.hackingchinese.com/asking-the-experts-how-to-bridge-the-gap-to-real-chinese/#comment-2671 Thu, 07 Nov 2013 20:27:04 +0000 http://www.hackingchinese.com/?p=4222#comment-2671 Still thinking about this post…

Incredible to think you got responses from all these folks.

Thought of a few questions I would like to ask the panel:

1) Can you hand write Chinese?
2) If yes, how did you learn?
3) If yes, please post a personal hand writing pic.

Here’s another thought…

Remember your posts and our interchange on recording ourselves… outside of a few in the list above, most I’ve never heard speak Chinese.

While text has its place and value, in the age of youtube and recording audio being as simple as a tap on our mobile device, and the fact that the article is about ‘speaking Chinese’, wouldn’t it be great and so relative if each ‘expert’ posted an audio clip of them spontaneously speaking Chinese with a native Chinese… now that would put some real proof in the pudding and demo their true 汉语水平 and 专家 status…

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