Comments on: Sensible character learning challenge 2014: The Big Finish https://www.hackingchinese.com/sensible-character-learning-challenge-2014-the-big-finish/ A better way of learning Mandarin Wed, 06 Aug 2014 18:45:02 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9.4 By: Olle Linge https://www.hackingchinese.com/sensible-character-learning-challenge-2014-the-big-finish/#comment-3708 Wed, 06 Aug 2014 18:45:02 +0000 http://www.hackingchinese.com/?p=5563#comment-3708 In reply to Nick.

I think Skritter is a good place to look. Users share their mnemonics and there’s also a simple voting system where you can vote for good mnemonics. There are mnemonics both for words and individual characters.

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By: Nick https://www.hackingchinese.com/sensible-character-learning-challenge-2014-the-big-finish/#comment-3707 Wed, 06 Aug 2014 17:03:37 +0000 http://www.hackingchinese.com/?p=5563#comment-3707 In regards of mnemonics, I was wondering if you know any sources where people share their mnemonics? Memrise uses this, but the website has no search function.
I am past 1500 characters that I have learned writing by rote learning, but my problem is I keep forgetting many of them. So inspired by your articles about creating mnemonics I have started doing so. I have been doing it for a couple of days now, but I find it incredibly hard. I typically spend 30-40 minutes creating a mnemonic for a character, so at this point it wouldn’t pay off in the long run. It would be a great help if there is somewhere to find some inspiration.

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By: John Nomura https://www.hackingchinese.com/sensible-character-learning-challenge-2014-the-big-finish/#comment-3706 Fri, 25 Jul 2014 11:25:23 +0000 http://www.hackingchinese.com/?p=5563#comment-3706 Olle,
I didn’t participate in the challenge but I read your articles and found a lot of useful ideas for learning Hanzi. You are quite amazing in the amount of high quality material you are able to produce

I’m working through a textbook that has 20 dialogs that get progressively longer & more complicated.
I started in January and I can now, by only looking at the English, write 14 of the dialogs to Hanzi correctly – about 400 characters. Also, doing this translation has improved my intuitive understanding of the structure of the language. More importantly, my speed for mastering a dialog has greatly increased. I’ve been using James Heisig’s books ‘remembering traditional Hanzi’ – he basically gives names to every primitive in each of 3000 characters – I’ve found his hints & approach quite useful. I also like learning characters in the context of sentences because I feel like I’m learning to communicate. In Sept 2014, I’m enrolled in a University course. They cover 500 characters per sememeter & have 8 classes – I intend to take all 8. They cover both traditional & simplified.

Below is my method for learning a dialog.
I would be very interested in hearing other people methods for learning Chinese.
1. make a 3×5 card for each character I don’t know in dialog. My 3×5 card has stroke order, names of primitives used, & ping ying, english translation & any words from dialog that use the character. Any other characters that I might confuse with this character.
2. Using 3×5 card, practice going from English to naming primitives and writing character until I can do this well
3. practice translating dialog from English to Ping ying.
4. practice writing Hanzi from ping ying
5. For any mistakes in writing Hanzi, I make a new 3×5 card that covers the phrase or sentence that I missed
6. Also maintain a spreadsheet that has all of this information that can be easily converted to anki. I’m also using the spreadsheet to keep track of which of the 3,000 Hanzi I’ve learned & which I have not. My longer term goal is to learn all 3,000 Hanzi (traditional & simplified) in his 4 books. I don’t use Anki now – I just sort my cards into 2 piles – the ones I know quickly & the ones I don’t. But I will be using Anki when studying at the Univ. to help me retain the characters I know. I’ll also continue writing at least 2 dialogs every day.
It now takes me just a few minutes to write these dialogs.
6. I have a Chinese friend who looks at my Hanzi and gives me feedback.

One other useful thing about writing dialogs without any grids is that I’m getting better at making all of my characters take up roughly the same amount of space.

Olle, Thanks again for all of your ideas – they helped me a lot.

John

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By: Olle Linge https://www.hackingchinese.com/sensible-character-learning-challenge-2014-the-big-finish/#comment-3705 Mon, 21 Jul 2014 08:13:41 +0000 http://www.hackingchinese.com/?p=5563#comment-3705 In reply to 爱美.

There will be other challenges, probably quite soon (although perhaps not about characters since we just finished this one). Stay tuned!

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By: Olle Linge https://www.hackingchinese.com/sensible-character-learning-challenge-2014-the-big-finish/#comment-3704 Mon, 21 Jul 2014 07:18:26 +0000 http://www.hackingchinese.com/?p=5563#comment-3704 In reply to Julia.

I think I’m done with the testing this time around, we need to do some fixes before the next round, but stay tuned, it probably won’t be long (a couple of weeks is my guess).

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By: Julia https://www.hackingchinese.com/sensible-character-learning-challenge-2014-the-big-finish/#comment-3703 Sun, 20 Jul 2014 06:40:42 +0000 http://www.hackingchinese.com/?p=5563#comment-3703 Thanks for making this challenge Olle, it was great motivation. My goal was about 400 characters and, according to Skritter, I’ve learnt about double that so I’m pretty chuffed.

Your language challenge engine sounds intriguing, drop me a line if you’re still looking for testers.

Thanks again!

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By: 爱美 https://www.hackingchinese.com/sensible-character-learning-challenge-2014-the-big-finish/#comment-3702 Thu, 17 Jul 2014 20:12:03 +0000 http://www.hackingchinese.com/?p=5563#comment-3702 Hello everyone

My life overtook me and my challenge suffered but I thought I should post a final comment.

I met my goal of hsk4 vocabulary but stumbled on learning my list of everyday characters from living in China, perhaps because those lists are not so well defined.

I have recently put up a Hanzi Wall Chart so that is going to be my next goal list before the scary hsk 5.

Milestone #1 (April 8th): 985 total EXCEEDED! 1004
Milestone #2 (April 30th): 1100 total Learned 1073
Milestone #3 (May 31st): 1200 total Learned 1100
End of challenge (June 30th): 1300 total Learned 1100

Thanks again Olle for creating this challenge.

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By: Georges https://www.hackingchinese.com/sensible-character-learning-challenge-2014-the-big-finish/#comment-3701 Wed, 09 Jul 2014 18:15:29 +0000 http://www.hackingchinese.com/?p=5563#comment-3701 We didn’t die, but succeeded in our challenge. Indeed it has been though at times. But knowing that others also continue to compete helps you to continue and study harder. It’s the second time we have competed in the challenge. It has been fun, and we are looking forward to upcoming challenges. The new challenge engine looks great. It will definitely help with boosting your own personal goal since we can see the progress of other competitors. This will also help by keeping track of your study buddies ( our 1st challenge we had) and continue to encourage each other.

Warm Greetings

Georges

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By: Oaht https://www.hackingchinese.com/sensible-character-learning-challenge-2014-the-big-finish/#comment-3700 Mon, 07 Jul 2014 03:40:43 +0000 http://www.hackingchinese.com/?p=5563#comment-3700 Hi all,
I also reached my goal at the end of this challange. Now in my Skritter stat I have 3010 characters learned (increased around 720 during the challange). I know that doesn’t mean I can remember all of them like the back of my hand, but I still feel quite good somehow. From now I will expand those characters into the combinations of words to help me retain what I have learned.
Thanks to Olle for seting up this challange and all of you guys (good to know that there are many people doing the same thing like me, hehe).
Cheers
Oaht

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By: xiaokaka https://www.hackingchinese.com/sensible-character-learning-challenge-2014-the-big-finish/#comment-3699 Sun, 06 Jul 2014 14:45:01 +0000 http://www.hackingchinese.com/?p=5563#comment-3699 In reply to Carla.

Very nice graphics!

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