Comments on: Review: Mandarin Companion graded readers (Level 1) https://www.hackingchinese.com/review-mandarin-companion-graded-readers-level-1/ A better way of learning Mandarin Wed, 11 Oct 2023 09:23:21 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9.4 By: Cerulione https://www.hackingchinese.com/review-mandarin-companion-graded-readers-level-1/#comment-112565 Wed, 11 Oct 2023 09:23:21 +0000 http://www.hackingchinese.com/?p=6518#comment-112565 I’ve read nearly all of the available Mandarin Companion graded readers as well as some others (Chinese Breeze and currently working my way through BLCUP’s Graded Readers for Chinese Language Learners). I believe I am somewhere between HSK 3 and 4 formally. Although, as someone who started as a heritage learner when I was a child and then retook the Chinese language study 20 years after as adult, I recognize a lot more specific words and cultural contexts when they are spoken to me. For example, I know who Yi Huang Da Di and Huang Mu Niang Niang are, who is Zhu Ba Jie etc. Often these kind of thing seems to throw off other learner I speak to here in France.

Mandarin Companion has none of this so it’s a big plus! It’s easier to absorb common people names like Li Ye or Zhou Haisheng or Chen Fang compared to Chinese Mythological figures.

One big problem I personally have is that I arrive at a lower intermediate stage where I have very good character recognition and good reading speed, to the point I can read a page of Mandarin Companion level 2 and some 600 character levels graded reader and recognize all of the characters and their meanings but I can’t sound them out. I know what a character means, what the word means precisely, and what the sentence means accurately, but I can’t sound out the words. I can’t read them aloud fluently. I can speak more easily than I can read aloud a written page despite the page is very easy for me to understand as I recognize the character. I can’t make the connection between the written characters and sound, but I can understand what’s said to me pretty easily by my teacher and my parents.

Do you (or anyone else) have any suggestions on how to tackle this, please? I’m thinking of trying reading the same level of text but with Pinyin on it, or should I try listening to Audiobook along with looking at the text at the same time?

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By: Olle Linge https://www.hackingchinese.com/review-mandarin-companion-graded-readers-level-1/#comment-48225 Fri, 28 Jun 2019 23:52:41 +0000 http://www.hackingchinese.com/?p=6518#comment-48225 In reply to Packrat1.

Oh, that’s great! One thing I would do differently if I learnt Mandarin again is to focus much more on listening early on. These books will help other people to do that, which is partly why I think the audio is so important. I realise that it probably doesn’t sell as well as the books do, but in my opinion, they are at least half the value of the product, possibly more.

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By: Packrat1 https://www.hackingchinese.com/review-mandarin-companion-graded-readers-level-1/#comment-48220 Fri, 28 Jun 2019 21:14:38 +0000 http://www.hackingchinese.com/?p=6518#comment-48220 These books are now available in audio editions on Audible (Amazon owns Audible).

Thanks for reviewing these. I’ve never read The Secret Garden, but always wanted to. But I’m a big fan of Sherlock Holmes and lots of H.G. Wells, too.

I’ve only been studying Mandarin for a month, very casually, but I’m reading a lot about the language and gathering a variety of resources. These ebooks and audio books will be mine right next to your book too. 🙂

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By: Olle Linge https://www.hackingchinese.com/review-mandarin-companion-graded-readers-level-1/#comment-34082 Thu, 25 Jan 2018 09:29:54 +0000 http://www.hackingchinese.com/?p=6518#comment-34082 In reply to Martin Holecek.

This is a very broad question and I wasn’t referring to any particular research. There’s plenty of research about incidental learning, which relies on understanding almost everything in a text. It was a while ago I looked into this, but a search for “incidental language learning” on Google Scholar will give you plenty of things to read, along with “extensive reading”. It’ snot a clear-cut case where extensive reading is several times better than intensive reading, it’s just that everybody already does intensive reading, hence the need to promote extensive reading! I can probably dig out more specific articles, but not from here and not now. Hope this gets you started at least!

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By: Martin Holecek https://www.hackingchinese.com/review-mandarin-companion-graded-readers-level-1/#comment-34067 Thu, 25 Jan 2018 06:08:12 +0000 http://www.hackingchinese.com/?p=6518#comment-34067 “Research tells us that the more we understand, the more we learn. If you understand almost nothing, you will learn little.”

Olle, can you point out to the research you are inferring this claim from?

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By: John https://www.hackingchinese.com/review-mandarin-companion-graded-readers-level-1/#comment-11681 Fri, 09 Sep 2016 13:53:40 +0000 http://www.hackingchinese.com/?p=6518#comment-11681 This afternoon I spend 1.5 hours reading 盲人国. I’m pleasantly surprised! Finally a graded reader that is both useful, enjoyable and fit for purpose. Moreover its available on Kindle (I read it on my phone using the app) which has a real advantage over paper version, in that you can use PLECO OCR to add any unknown words instantly to your flash card list. I’m near HSK 5 level. As Ollie noted, even at my level its still useful. You can read continuously for 1.5 – 2 hours and not feel tired like your reading a text book. Also it becomes much easier to start “scan reading”, something which i struggle with.

Its evident the authors put a lot of effort to ensure the story and language flows. The choice of language used (noting its strict limitations) does indeed sound very natural and I like the subtle introduction of basic grammar points such as 不是 … 是. The select choice of cartoon style pictures judiciously placed in the text does break it up, a quick glance reinforces what you have just read.

I suppose they could add a few explanations points at the end of it, some sentences are not so “beginner level”. Coincidentally the only sentence where i had to have a second look was as you noted Ollie was the ..很奇怪. Also some words appear to be over-used like 一直. However, I am just being pedantic, not a concern at all. The lack of audio is a touch disappointing. Even mp3 downloads from their website read by a native speaker would be beneficial.

My fear is, as with the Chinese Breeze series the authors may lose interest in writing a level 3 or 4 book. It would be an ideal companion to their excellent Grammar Wiki!

Overall, one of the best non-textbook style material for learning Chinese I have seen.

@John (if you read this):
I think it would be very sensible to write just one level 3 and 4 book rather that trying to complete all books in that level. That way, you and your colleagues can gauge the response, feedback from readers whilst at the same time, lower intermediate students have some useful material. 🙂

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By: leeshin12 https://www.hackingchinese.com/review-mandarin-companion-graded-readers-level-1/#comment-4010 Thu, 28 May 2015 12:19:59 +0000 http://www.hackingchinese.com/?p=6518#comment-4010 i have heard that mandarin Chinese is easy compared to other form of Chinese language.i think this book will be useful
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By: Sharon https://www.hackingchinese.com/review-mandarin-companion-graded-readers-level-1/#comment-4009 Tue, 26 May 2015 00:56:16 +0000 http://www.hackingchinese.com/?p=6518#comment-4009 I have read all the ebooks. And I am addicted to graded readers. How can I buy the chinese breeze books in mainland China???

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By: Benson Wallace https://www.hackingchinese.com/review-mandarin-companion-graded-readers-level-1/#comment-4008 Mon, 25 May 2015 15:25:45 +0000 http://www.hackingchinese.com/?p=6518#comment-4008 In reply to John Pasden.

Hi John,

Regarding your comment “It’s the closest we can get to sci-fi at Level 1. But I’m certainly not giving up on sci-fi at higher levels!” – any plans to release any higher level graded readers any time soon?

Cheers,
Benson

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By: Cindy https://www.hackingchinese.com/review-mandarin-companion-graded-readers-level-1/#comment-4007 Thu, 21 May 2015 15:04:38 +0000 http://www.hackingchinese.com/?p=6518#comment-4007 I started secret garden but I was at Chapter four in less than half an hour. The book is too easy for me, (I ought to be hsk level 5, although I haven’t taken an hsk test yet). But I can’t wait for higher levels! I think level 2 will be more appropriate for me, since I still struggle with some basic grammar issues. Any idea when level 2 will be released? This year, next year?

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