Comments on: Does using colour to represent Mandarin tones make them easier to learn? https://www.hackingchinese.com/does-using-colour-to-represent-mandarin-tones-make-them-easier-to-learn/ A better way of learning Mandarin Thu, 09 Feb 2023 16:17:56 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9.4 By: Kieran https://www.hackingchinese.com/does-using-colour-to-represent-mandarin-tones-make-them-easier-to-learn/#comment-106913 Thu, 09 Feb 2023 16:17:56 +0000 https://www.hackingchinese.com/?p=11523#comment-106913 But the thing is ..that… you don’t have to put any effort into remembering the tone colours. It will come naturally if you put a chart of vocab on your fridge etc.. and look at it once or twice for 25~30 days. After that it goes into long-term memory. And I know that many Hanxi have homophones using diiferent tones so this system is best mainly for words.

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By: Olle Linge https://www.hackingchinese.com/does-using-colour-to-represent-mandarin-tones-make-them-easier-to-learn/#comment-106730 Fri, 03 Feb 2023 19:02:29 +0000 https://www.hackingchinese.com/?p=11523#comment-106730 In reply to Kieran.

I think it’s useful mostly because of the extra pegging it allows for. Remembering something abstract like a number or tone contour is rather hard, but if you have something concrete, like a colour, this makes it easier to create mnemonics, which can be great for remember the pronunciation of characters you don’t read aloud very often. I think colours are still too abstract, but the step to something like elements (blue = water, red = fire, etc.) is pretty small. I wrote more about this here if you’re interested!

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By: Kieran https://www.hackingchinese.com/does-using-colour-to-represent-mandarin-tones-make-them-easier-to-learn/#comment-106726 Fri, 03 Feb 2023 17:21:07 +0000 https://www.hackingchinese.com/?p=11523#comment-106726 I started with TrainChinese app. And they use the red, yellow, green , blue system. This is the system I have gotten used to and makes sense when you think of rainbow color order. AS long as you look at the vocab for arpund 30 days straight you will naturally remember the colors. Now for example, 老师 is always green, red and 现在 is always blue, blue in my head. I think it is a very useful technique.

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By: Liz https://www.hackingchinese.com/does-using-colour-to-represent-mandarin-tones-make-them-easier-to-learn/#comment-60876 Thu, 12 Mar 2020 16:32:27 +0000 https://www.hackingchinese.com/?p=11523#comment-60876 In reply to Graeme.

…and the MT tone colours are different again to those listed above! (1st: green; 2nd: blue; 3rd: red; 4th black; none for 5th…)

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By: Martin H https://www.hackingchinese.com/does-using-colour-to-represent-mandarin-tones-make-them-easier-to-learn/#comment-60508 Wed, 19 Feb 2020 19:35:40 +0000 https://www.hackingchinese.com/?p=11523#comment-60508 Hello Olle, Thanks for the article, especially the 2017, Godfroid, Lin and Ryu research paper. It completely supports my hypothesis that tone contour is the best method for increasing tone precision.

From my experience of a tone-deaf person trying to learn the tones, colors proved to be very useful when drilling the correct tone pitch in texts. Its a one less middle-step for my brain go through, hence faster and more fluent my production.

Personally I think it is not too good to use colors for remembering Chinese characters tones. Now let me tell you why I think so. Chinese is a language generated from 412 syllables adding 4(5) tones makes it around 1600. The problem I encounter when trying to recollect a specific character tones is that there are too many homophones, extreme amount compared to my native language. The other issue I see is that Chinese written discourse and Chinese spoken discourse are very dissimilar as to structures and characters used.

Chinese learners need the tones mostly for production, speaking. Reading, even when subvocalized, needs pinyin first, tones are secondary. For understanding and reading (subvocalization included) texts tones are marginal.

Does using colors to represent tones help learning the tones? I would argue it does not. In the sense that recollection of specific tone-character combination is not increased. However it helps me to find and practice tone pitch, focus more on tones and diction than the message.

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By: Richard Pohl https://www.hackingchinese.com/does-using-colour-to-represent-mandarin-tones-make-them-easier-to-learn/#comment-60408 Sat, 15 Feb 2020 11:24:53 +0000 https://www.hackingchinese.com/?p=11523#comment-60408 I originally started with Trainchinese, and it might be good to mention this platform uses Dummit scheme exclusively. If anyone plan to use the Trainchinese resources, they should be aware of that when combining with Pleco and Hanping and configure them accordingly.

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By: Olle Linge https://www.hackingchinese.com/does-using-colour-to-represent-mandarin-tones-make-them-easier-to-learn/#comment-60388 Fri, 14 Feb 2020 13:18:06 +0000 https://www.hackingchinese.com/?p=11523#comment-60388 In reply to Graeme.

This wasn’t meant to be an historical overview, but what is your “it works well” based on? Do you mean that it works well for you, or that maybe he has some reason to think it works? I doubt there was any research into this that long ago, but I could of course be wrong. As the paper I cited indicates, though, students thinking that colours work doesn’t make them work! The group that used colours thought well of them in the post-experiment survey, yet they performed worse than the group that didn’t use colours. I’m not saying colours never work for anyone, but that the evidence so far seems to point that they don’t help on average.

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By: Olle Linge https://www.hackingchinese.com/does-using-colour-to-represent-mandarin-tones-make-them-easier-to-learn/#comment-60387 Fri, 14 Feb 2020 13:15:04 +0000 https://www.hackingchinese.com/?p=11523#comment-60387 In reply to Mark Carter (Hanping Chinese developer).

I have added Hanping! Sorry for always forgetting to include it, so thanks for reminding me!

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By: Graeme https://www.hackingchinese.com/does-using-colour-to-represent-mandarin-tones-make-them-easier-to-learn/#comment-60311 Wed, 12 Feb 2020 04:13:33 +0000 https://www.hackingchinese.com/?p=11523#comment-60311 Colour coding tones, was used by Michel Thomas decades ago…. to learn Mandarin. It works well, he coupled it with hand gestures too.

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By: Mark Carter (Hanping Chinese developer) https://www.hackingchinese.com/does-using-colour-to-represent-mandarin-tones-make-them-easier-to-learn/#comment-60310 Wed, 12 Feb 2020 03:35:43 +0000 https://www.hackingchinese.com/?p=11523#comment-60310 Great article! I’d just like to point out that Hanping also allows you to configure tone colors exactly.

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