Comments on: Should you learn to speak Chinese before you learn Chinese characters? https://www.hackingchinese.com/should-you-learn-to-speak-chinese-before-you-learn-chinese-characters/ A better way of learning Mandarin Mon, 04 Aug 2025 09:35:00 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9.4 By: Olle Linge https://www.hackingchinese.com/should-you-learn-to-speak-chinese-before-you-learn-chinese-characters/#comment-138013 Wed, 23 Jul 2025 06:40:00 +0000 https://www.hackingchinese.com/?p=11790#comment-138013 In reply to Katya Hernández.

This is a very late reply to your question; I must have missed it when you posted it and only found it now when I was updating the article for other reasons. I’ll still answer in case other people are interested, though, or if you’re still interested five years later.

Typing and reading falls somewhere between focusing only on the spoken language and writing everything by hand. I still prefer to focus mostly on the spoken language early on for the reasons given in this article, but when characters are introduced, it should definitely be mostly in the way you describe. This is something I have written quite a lot about elsewhere, including in more recent articles such as this one: Chinese character learning for all students.

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By: Olle Linge https://www.hackingchinese.com/should-you-learn-to-speak-chinese-before-you-learn-chinese-characters/#comment-116629 Fri, 26 Jan 2024 10:29:16 +0000 https://www.hackingchinese.com/?p=11790#comment-116629 In reply to Diana McKinney.

How much do you understand right now? I generally recommend that you spend a majority of your time with materials you can mostly make sense of unaided. You don’t mention how much Chinese you know already, so it’s hard to give more specific advice. You can safely ignore characters up to at least an intermediate level.

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By: Diana McKinney https://www.hackingchinese.com/should-you-learn-to-speak-chinese-before-you-learn-chinese-characters/#comment-116593 Thu, 25 Jan 2024 08:51:50 +0000 https://www.hackingchinese.com/?p=11790#comment-116593 I just became interested in Chinese TV dramas but have had to stop them often in order to read the English translation. I would like to learn to understand the spoken language so I can watch the dramas without bothering with closed caption English translations.
Since I am 70 years old and never likely to travel to China I don’t believe I have the time or inclination to learn to write the characters. Thank you for your thoughts.

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By: Olle Linge https://www.hackingchinese.com/should-you-learn-to-speak-chinese-before-you-learn-chinese-characters/#comment-98892 Tue, 02 Aug 2022 16:05:53 +0000 https://www.hackingchinese.com/?p=11790#comment-98892 In reply to g.

Thank you for sharing! I think the most important thing is to study according to one’s goals. If one wants to read and/or write, then focus on the written language; if one wants to listen/speak, then focus on the spoken language. If a balanced competence is desired, then mix both. This ought to be obvious, but far too often, courses and teachers impose a syllabus very heavy on reading and writing, even if students want to learn the spoken language too.

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By: g https://www.hackingchinese.com/should-you-learn-to-speak-chinese-before-you-learn-chinese-characters/#comment-98832 Mon, 01 Aug 2022 13:45:17 +0000 https://www.hackingchinese.com/?p=11790#comment-98832 When I started to learn Chinese I took a very unorthodox approach. I studied characters for years, before beginning to study actual phrases in written Chinese, and before beginning to speak or to pronounce, or even to listen spoken Chinese.
For various reasons this approach did not work for me. One reason is that I ended up having to imagine clearly every single character in my mind while speaking, which is impossible. This approach delayed for years my acquisition of all the other skills needed to speak a language. I had to painstakingly “deconstruct” all that I had learned and I had to begin again from zero. In the short term, I was able to read a novel in Chinese after one year of an intensive course in Chinese (focused more on reading and writing than speaking), but I was not able to buy apples smoothly in the market (this example is real). In the long term I am not even sure that this approach helped to recognize more characters.
Don’t try this at home.

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By: Botlogger99 https://www.hackingchinese.com/should-you-learn-to-speak-chinese-before-you-learn-chinese-characters/#comment-91425 Sun, 09 Jan 2022 02:16:38 +0000 https://www.hackingchinese.com/?p=11790#comment-91425 In reply to Olle Linge.

Yes, my primary goal is to master reading.

Thanks a lot for your answer.

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By: Olle Linge https://www.hackingchinese.com/should-you-learn-to-speak-chinese-before-you-learn-chinese-characters/#comment-91369 Fri, 07 Jan 2022 13:54:26 +0000 https://www.hackingchinese.com/?p=11790#comment-91369 In reply to Botlogger99.

If your main goal is to read, then you can certainly do that! I’m mostly talking about people who want to learn all aspects of the language here. Tones aren’t very important when it comes to characters, because they are rarely preserved in phonetic components anyway (in fact, Chinese hasn’t always been tonal either, so many characters were created when there were no tones).

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By: Botlogger99 https://www.hackingchinese.com/should-you-learn-to-speak-chinese-before-you-learn-chinese-characters/#comment-91363 Fri, 07 Jan 2022 08:47:01 +0000 https://www.hackingchinese.com/?p=11790#comment-91363 Can i do the opposite ???

You advised against this method (in another article) because it usually neglecte the phonetic components in most Chinese characters.

I’m learning characters by their phonetic components (using the Outlier dictionary).
So i guess there’s no reason why i shouldn’t learn Chinese by learning the written part first, right ??

Particularly since if i did so, it will make it easier for me to focus on the tones (when i start learning spoken Chinese later on),, because by then, i will be familiar with many of the syllables/toneless pinyin.

I’m only fascinated by the characters, so i hope this method works.

Thanks.

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By: Katya Hernández https://www.hackingchinese.com/should-you-learn-to-speak-chinese-before-you-learn-chinese-characters/#comment-67879 Wed, 16 Sep 2020 05:44:13 +0000 https://www.hackingchinese.com/?p=11790#comment-67879 I would like to know something:

I’ve been learning for three and a half months, and from day one my teacher has been exposition us to characters. As we progress, she uses less and less pinyin, and sometimes only when introducing a new word or a new character, and I love her approach.

I do a massive amount of listening, reading, shadowing, and flashcards on my own, and I’m now able to read level 1 graded readers and understand a lot of what’s said in children’s tales and such. So far, I’ve put zero effort into handwriting, but I do type a lot on my computer and phone (doing internet searches, leaving comments on social media, writing sentences and words that I want to study later).

So, it confuses me a little that you don’t make a distinction between handwriting, or rather, that you don’t really mention typing as a form of writing, which is really a separate skill. To me, this approach of only using electronic devices to write almost from day one has proven effective, and I don’t feel like it’s making me compromise the other parts of my learning.

I’m a professional wishing to remotely communicate with coworkers in China, both via email and video conferencing (mostly email, though), so does it make sense where I’m coming from? What are your thoughts?

Love your articles, by the way!

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By: Damiano https://www.hackingchinese.com/should-you-learn-to-speak-chinese-before-you-learn-chinese-characters/#comment-65039 Fri, 26 Jun 2020 10:09:14 +0000 https://www.hackingchinese.com/?p=11790#comment-65039 -In theory, each word you learn can have four different flashcards:
Listening – Audio on the front, the rest on the back
Speaking – Definition, cloze sentence or picture on the front, the rest on the back
Reading – Characters on the front, the rest on the back
Writing – Definition, cloze sentence or picture on the front, the rest on the back

Should the flashcard (Anki for example) be set in a way that for Speaking it expects me to pronounce the character and check my pronunciation? Is that even possible in Anki?

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