Comments on: What important words are missing from HSK? https://www.hackingchinese.com/what-important-words-are-missing-from-hsk/ A better way of learning Mandarin Sat, 04 Oct 2025 10:30:50 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9.4 By: Olle Linge https://www.hackingchinese.com/what-important-words-are-missing-from-hsk/#comment-108578 Thu, 20 Apr 2023 17:56:10 +0000 https://www.hackingchinese.com/?p=12069#comment-108578 In reply to Conner.

Yes! I did maybe half, but then ran out of time. I’ve been too busy with other commitments recently, but it’s definitely in the pipeline!

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By: Conner https://www.hackingchinese.com/what-important-words-are-missing-from-hsk/#comment-108554 Wed, 19 Apr 2023 14:33:25 +0000 https://www.hackingchinese.com/?p=12069#comment-108554 Do you plan on doing a similar analysis with the new hsk vocab?

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By: Olle Linge https://www.hackingchinese.com/what-important-words-are-missing-from-hsk/#comment-107753 Wed, 08 Mar 2023 07:54:21 +0000 https://www.hackingchinese.com/?p=12069#comment-107753 In reply to NB.

Hm.. I’m afraid I still don’t see what the purpose of this would be. If you take the list I have produced and you add HSK back in (which is a trivial copy and paste), don’t you get exactly what you describe? Step 3 has almost no impact on HSK words anyway, the whole point of step 3 was to remove things that could have been on HSK but aren’t because the authors didn’t consider them eligible candidates.

In short, it seems to me that if you remove step 2 in the process, the only difference is that step 3 doesn’t get applied to the HSK words, but step3 wouldn’t have any effect on the HSK words anyway, no?

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By: NB https://www.hackingchinese.com/what-important-words-are-missing-from-hsk/#comment-107749 Wed, 08 Mar 2023 04:58:45 +0000 https://www.hackingchinese.com/?p=12069#comment-107749 Sorry for the confusion! It’s my understanding that you:

1. Started with the SUBTLEX-CH list
2. Removed the actual HSK words
3. Removed additional entries based on your stated criteria
4. Were left with the words in this article that are “missing” from HSK

What I’m asking is, can we skip step 2? Essentially, a version of SUBTLEX-CH refined according to your criteria, but with any HSK words still included.

Basically, I feel it would be very useful to have a frequency list that has been edited according to an expert (you). Your criteria above makes a lot of sense and I believe this would be a very efficient study tool if it was applied to the frequency list independently from the idea of what’s missing from HSK. I hope this makes sense, it’s been a difficult idea to explain via text! Thanks again.

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By: Olle Linge https://www.hackingchinese.com/what-important-words-are-missing-from-hsk/#comment-107520 Tue, 28 Feb 2023 17:35:27 +0000 https://www.hackingchinese.com/?p=12069#comment-107520 In reply to NB.

I’m not sure I understand what you mean! What I did here was to compare a frequency list with HSK and then do some analysis to check what high-frequency words were either delayed or left out of HSK. What you ask for would simply be a frequency list. I did not try to subjectively decide what words are useful! The only subjective parts here are 1) my judgement of what is a word and 2) the grouping of words into categories (such as profanity, foreign things, etc.).

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By: NB https://www.hackingchinese.com/what-important-words-are-missing-from-hsk/#comment-107518 Tue, 28 Feb 2023 16:15:31 +0000 https://www.hackingchinese.com/?p=12069#comment-107518 Hi Olle, thanks for this resource as well as the other great stuff in your articles and book!

Is there a version of this list that is independent from the HSK? Meaning, you distilled the frequency list down to what you thought are the most useful entries, but because the article is about what’s missing from HSK, you also removed the words occurring in HSK. So is there a version of your filtered list with the HSK words still included? I think this would be VERY useful to those wanting to make the most of the frequency list who are also not HSK learners.

Thanks again!

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By: Olle Linge https://www.hackingchinese.com/what-important-words-are-missing-from-hsk/#comment-95887 Fri, 27 May 2022 07:09:14 +0000 https://www.hackingchinese.com/?p=12069#comment-95887 In reply to Nathan Rasmussen.

Good catch! I’ve updated it to say 408 now, thanks!

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By: Nathan Rasmussen https://www.hackingchinese.com/what-important-words-are-missing-from-hsk/#comment-95869 Thu, 26 May 2022 22:39:18 +0000 https://www.hackingchinese.com/?p=12069#comment-95869 Your list of words missing from HSK6 has only 408 entries, not 409.

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By: 武文山 https://www.hackingchinese.com/what-important-words-are-missing-from-hsk/#comment-68124 Sat, 26 Sep 2020 12:24:18 +0000 https://www.hackingchinese.com/?p=12069#comment-68124 In reply to Josh.

As an alternative to the above, I use the following page to generate word lists to import into Anki:

https://www.purpleculture.net/vocabulary-list-generator/

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By: Olle Linge https://www.hackingchinese.com/what-important-words-are-missing-from-hsk/#comment-65966 Tue, 21 Jul 2020 21:47:07 +0000 https://www.hackingchinese.com/?p=12069#comment-65966 In reply to Fearchar.

I have now published a follow-up article about TOCFL! I used a different frequency list, but the principles remain the same. It’s interesting that for many words with different regional versions, such as 腳踏車/自行車, both versions are listed on the test. You can check the article here: https://www.hackingchinese.com/what-important-words-are-missing-from-tocfl/

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