Comments on: You won’t learn Chinese simply by living abroad https://www.hackingchinese.com/you-wont-learn-chinese-simply-by-living-abroad/ A better way of learning Mandarin Thu, 23 Oct 2025 22:04:36 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9.4 By: If you can only stay abroad for a short time, don't go immediately | Hacking Chinese https://www.hackingchinese.com/you-wont-learn-chinese-simply-by-living-abroad/#comment-142156 Thu, 23 Oct 2025 22:04:36 +0000 http://www.hackingchinese.com/?p=318#comment-142156 […] Will you learn the language simply by living abroad? No, you won’t, as proven by the large number of expats in China who don’t speak Chinese … […]

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By: 16 myths about learning Chinese that are holding you back | Hacking Chinese https://www.hackingchinese.com/you-wont-learn-chinese-simply-by-living-abroad/#comment-141147 Tue, 30 Sep 2025 04:25:29 +0000 http://www.hackingchinese.com/?p=318#comment-141147 […] You won’t learn Chinese simply by living abroad […]

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By: Olle Linge https://www.hackingchinese.com/you-wont-learn-chinese-simply-by-living-abroad/#comment-139616 Tue, 12 Aug 2025 16:16:07 +0000 http://www.hackingchinese.com/?p=318#comment-139616 In reply to pickone.

I’m not sure what most of your comment has to do with the question at hand. Do you dispute that the third tone is a low tone in most contexts? More specifically, we’re talking about when it occurs in front of any other tone except another third tone (when it obviously doesn’t dip either). In connected speech, this is most of the time, since people don’t communicate in single syllables or indeed single words. I’m not sure where all the hate is coming from. This can be found in any textbook on Chinese phonetics. It’s very easy to verify.

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By: pickone https://www.hackingchinese.com/you-wont-learn-chinese-simply-by-living-abroad/#comment-139589 Tue, 12 Aug 2025 06:05:36 +0000 http://www.hackingchinese.com/?p=318#comment-139589 NPCR? What an outdated joke. I remember finishing the entire first book and I still didn’t know how to ask where the bathroom was.
Evidently the entire idea of studying Chinese is as a purely academic subject to provide one with employment for life as a scholar, not to actually communicate or live in China.
One must obviously continue all the way to classical Chinese to appreciate Tang dynasty poetry and read Confucius in the original. Why else study Chinese? I mean, seriously.
Just check out these suuuuuuuper cringe Harvard (the antisemitic woke plagiarist university) professors’ pronunciation: do they use your new invention of the third tone to say ni? You maybe get the idea you’re alone here?
https://youtu.be/xJis9TSw1rE?si=86Eoj-zMEx98KVPJ&t=27
If you’ve got some weird idea to teach the third tone wrongly then surely the rest of the Chinese teaching industry must have picked that up somewhere. But no, it’s an original idea.
Face it, you found a Taiwanism and aren’t clever enough to figure that out. Because we get it, simplified is ugly and traditional is the only pure way.

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By: Olle Linge https://www.hackingchinese.com/you-wont-learn-chinese-simply-by-living-abroad/#comment-139498 Sun, 10 Aug 2025 11:29:17 +0000 http://www.hackingchinese.com/?p=318#comment-139498 In reply to stoplying.

I mean, if you come to my website “again”, I think you should expect to find articles written by me. I’m not going to respond to your comment in detail because you’re not even trying to discuss this in any reasonable manner.

In fact, I’m not even sure what you’re attacking here, exactly. You seem to be assuming a previous discussion, which is hard to understand because you use a nonsense username.

Is it the idea to teach the third tone as a low tone? That’s a valid opinion. Most people don’t do it. It’s a proposed pedagogical approach to make understanding the third tone easier to learn. I think the arguments for doing so makes sense, which I’ve discussed elsewhere (as I’m sure you’re aware of, hence your “again”). It is, after all, normally just a low tone.

Or are you trying to argue that it isn’t a low tone normally? Because that’s what any textbook on Chinese phonetics or phonology will tell you. Most textbooks for foreigners do so as well (Integrated Chinese and New Practical Chinese Reader, for example).

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By: stoplying https://www.hackingchinese.com/you-wont-learn-chinese-simply-by-living-abroad/#comment-139431 Sat, 09 Aug 2025 07:50:28 +0000 http://www.hackingchinese.com/?p=318#comment-139431 “Another example is teachers instructing students to pronounce the third tone as a dipping tone”
Oh, THIS guy again??

Still with no proof, no citations, no textbooks, and not a single certified Mandarin teacher in China teaches this. They somehow got their certifications anyway.
Stop hurting students! What’s wrong with you?
Everyone else is wrong and you’re the only one who’s right. You sound like Donald Trump.Hey, are you an American? Who did you vote for? Because that would explain a lot.

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By: Student Q&A: March, 2025: Chinese slang, leaving expat bubbles, and competing with other learners | Hacking Chinese https://www.hackingchinese.com/you-wont-learn-chinese-simply-by-living-abroad/#comment-129613 Sun, 09 Mar 2025 05:13:09 +0000 http://www.hackingchinese.com/?p=318#comment-129613 […] You won’t learn Chinese simply by living abroad […]

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By: Don't be a tourist | Hacking Chinese https://www.hackingchinese.com/you-wont-learn-chinese-simply-by-living-abroad/#comment-127703 Sun, 26 Jan 2025 10:43:58 +0000 http://www.hackingchinese.com/?p=318#comment-127703 […] I’ve shown in two other articles, living in China does not guarantee that you learn much Chinese, and travelling is not nearly as good a method for language learning as people […]

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By: The three roads to mastering Chinese | Hacking Chinese https://www.hackingchinese.com/you-wont-learn-chinese-simply-by-living-abroad/#comment-126820 Sat, 04 Jan 2025 17:18:28 +0000 http://www.hackingchinese.com/?p=318#comment-126820 […] The point here is that a majority of your social interactions need to be in Chinese. Marrying a native speaker doesn’t guarantee that you’ll learn Chinese, just like moving to China doesn’t mean you’ll learn much either. […]

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By: Language learning with a Chinese girlfriend or boyfriend | Hacking Chinese https://www.hackingchinese.com/you-wont-learn-chinese-simply-by-living-abroad/#comment-126768 Mon, 23 Dec 2024 21:50:43 +0000 http://www.hackingchinese.com/?p=318#comment-126768 […] is similar to the idea of immersion abroad; you don’t learn Chinese simply by living in China. Yes, living in a Chinese-speaking environment will make some things easier, but it’s also […]

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